Canon's mirrorless camera has filled out nicely in the last few years, with powerful models like the EOS R5 and EOS R3 offering professional-level performance and options like the EOS RP and EOS R6 offering more affordable pricing with reasonably balanced feature sets. Missing in all of that is an advanced APS-C mirrorless camera, but thankfully, that will likely change later this year.
Canon Rumors is reporting that the Canon EOS R7 has been delayed, but that it will likely be announced in the fourth quarter of this year. The EOS R7 would be the natural successor of the Canon 7D series. The 7D and 7D Mark II were highly popular bodies, offering Canon's most advanced performance and features in an APS-C body at a much more affordable price than comparable full frame bodies. This made it a great option for advanced amateurs or for pros who wanted a capable backup body or the extra reach offered by the crop sensor instead of having to spend significant money on an extra supertelephoto lens. I have no doubt that a similar mirrorless model would be just as popular with Canon photographers. Hopefully, we will see it later this year!
I wonder what kind of battery the new APS-C mirrorless camera will have. Hopefully a very powerful one. My 5D Mark 4 and 6D really struggle to focus my 300-800mm Sigma lens, because the glass elements that have to be moved are so big and heavy. So I have to rely on my old 1D Mark 4, with its huge powerful battery, when using my 300-800mm for flying birds, or other uses where extremely rapid focusing is required. I just hope the new 7 series doesn't have a wimpy battery like the R5 and R6 have. And no, a battery grip with two batteries doesn't help.
Just wondering what lens mount for R7... Unless they are planing to change bajonet on aps-c canon EF-S lenses
This! Yes, the R5 is definitely not an inexpensive upgrade, but it's the RF lenses that create financial challenges to switch over to. The adapter works well enough, but Canon is not making any new EF lenses including upgrades to existing EF lenses. Very curious to see how the R7 plays out.
Why would they change the mount on EF-S lenses?
R7 implies it'll probably be an R mount body.
Whether or not they plan to make an updated lens mount that will prevent [possible] future APS-C R-mount lenses from being used on FF R-mount bodies IS curious, but they do have the M-mount for the entry-level stuff that EF-S lenses were supposed to cover (and they're still insisting that the EOS-M line isn't dead...), so the likelyhood of them making a separate series of R-mount APS-C lenses is miniscule.
My bet is on them selling it with FF-compatible wide lenses like the 16mm f/2.8 or 24-105 f/4-7.1 as "kit lenses"and them never developing dedicated APS-C R-mount lenses for the system...
I really hope they don't make "RF-S" lenses. I think it would confuse the RF system, unnecessarily. With phones completely subsuming the low end market, non-pro enthusiasts would be better served with either inexpensive full frame options (with lots of upgradability) or compact APS-C lenses & cameras (M-series).
It would be awesome if they made 'L' glass for the M-mount. Some of the huge appeal of Fuji's X system is the amazing little lenses they make for it. Canon has never seemed very interested in making high-end APS-C lenses, which is a shame.
I hope they don't make special lenses (different mount) for the smaller sensor bodies, either.
I always thought that EF-S stuff was kinda stupid, made for pennypinching "Rebel" users or whatever.
I used to shoot APS-C bodies extensively, and always just used the regular EF lenses on them. I think I got noticeably better results than I would have if I had tried to use cheaper, lighter EF-S equivalents. Heck, most of the lenses I used didn't even have EF-S equivalents - 400 f2.8, 300-800mmm f5.6, 100-400mm f5.6, etc.
And what's the point of spending many hundreds or thousands of dollars on lenses that you can only use on your crop sensor bodies and can't ever use on your full frame bodies? It's just stupid.
It will still be same mount / bajonet, but the lens line will be marked differently because it wont be able to cover FF sensor... So RFS is same as RF, just lens light circle is different
I am talking about changing bajonet.. Not creating new mount. Aps-c lenses are cheaper as they dont need to produce such a wide light circle as FF lenses and aps-c glass is lighter. I think you'll be more than welcome to spend all your money on expensive RF glass for full frame... Instead of buying aps-c lens with RF-S bajonet instead of EF-S...
I was against them making APS-C RF mount cameras, but after hearing from a lot of folks, I think it does make sense. I just hope they don't confuse the RF lens lineup with "RF-S" lenses.
The immense costs for R versions of the EF lenses is a substantial hurdle to upgrading to an R camera. I am loathe to replace my beloved 5d3 with a 20 megapixel R6 regardless of how nice it is. It is nearly $3,000 alone.
Recently purchased a 16 to 35 F4 and so far it's not that great. It is meant to be adapted for my next camera for landscapes. But these prices for Canon stuff is just gone nuts.
Then why do you have 5D mk3 when actually 6D mk1 was producing better results than 5D mk3... Only thing better on 5D mk3 was autofocus and few more settings which magic lantern firmware wiped off table in a big way
Why would someone prefer an APS-C over the RP? I switched from the 90D to the RP. I find the body too small. But other than that, just love the new RF lenses. Can't afford the RF L lenses, but works great with the adapters. The RF 50/1.8 is a lot better than the the EF 50/1.8 and I used to love that just as much as my 135/2L.
For the same price, you get a lot more performance by cutting the sensor in half (or smaller, as per Canon's traditional 1.6x crop factor) and using the extra money to upgrade the body and processing pipeline.
Lot more performance because it's a newer camera and hence has better technology? Or just better performance because it's a smaller sensor. So say the RP2 is released next year, it should leapfrog the R7. So at that point at the same price point roughly, is there any reason to buy the R7?
What I'm getting at is that for years I used the crop Canon cameras because I couldn't afford the FF ones (plus they were heavy). The RP to me was simply perfect. FF and light. And great RF lenses. I just bought the 100-400 RF. It's so light I'm mostly using it hand held. I don't think I could do that with my EF 300 f/4 L lens. And the image quality on the RF is pretty amazing.
I'm a Fujifilm shooter but my wife shoots Canon. She recently traded in her beloved 80D for the M50. Trying it myself, I was extremely disappointed with the autofocus performance (speed not accuracy), image quality (noisy even at base ISO) and lens selection. It's absolutely terrible! Definitely a step in the wrong direction on every level. It's only redeeming qualities were: ease of use and compact size. Since then, Canon really stepped it up. However, I wish they would move away from the poorly supported EF-M lens mount or make a better selection. Having only 11 native lens (with autofocus that still aren't that good optically) is garbage. Especially when there's only 7 third-party options (with autofocus.) Either move back to the EF-S mount, or upgrade to the RF mount.
Why bother with another R model?
Canon can not even produce the RF lenses for the R bodies. Ive been waiting over a half year for an RF 28-70 f2 lens and the RF 70-200 has been on backorder for months too.
Love my R5 but I currently only have 1 RF lens. Thank goodness I bought the adapter ring mount to use my EF lenses.
Are they positive it's APS-C, or just an R/RP successor? Giving it the same naming convention as their FF lineup might confuse some customers.